tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post1345110837422218859..comments2024-03-22T19:52:46.571+00:00Comments on SOCIALISM OR YOUR MONEY BACK: What is a Free Tibet ?Poetry Coalshedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05514953133244910986noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-52014003210174281742010-12-28T23:43:43.569+00:002010-12-28T23:43:43.569+00:00In regard of the house arrests i quote a pro-shugd...In regard of the house arrests i quote a pro-shugden web source "They are prevented from leaving their rooms and kept under virtual house arrest by the local police under instructions from Dharamsala, who allege that the monks are a threat to H.H. the Dalai Lama's security." , so yes by Indian policmen , on the advice of dalai lama's officials <br /><br />I think you do miss certain aspects of the blog post , dismissed by you as ideology. SOYMB is opposed to religion as a mystification of reality and opposes nationalism as a false consciousness.<br /><br />You may indeed find the religious aspects of this schism to be fascinating but what interested this blog was the actions of an aspirant government in waiting, regardless of religious expressions, and how it behaves in a similar co-ercive manner as existing governments to dissidents. SOYMB awaits a new Tibetan government who'll have the power and the forces to impose its will and we'll note if it acts much differently from any other class divided state.ajohnstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09874891810770297962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-64963245860023358342010-12-28T23:00:40.404+00:002010-12-28T23:00:40.404+00:00oh also you mention house arrests. by the indian p...oh also you mention house arrests. by the indian police? the Tibetan govt doesnt have a police force.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-76551544543723282992010-12-28T21:39:09.995+00:002010-12-28T21:39:09.995+00:00I wish you would stop loading everything with ideo...I wish you would stop loading everything with ideology. within any system there will be individuals who abuse their power. The Tibetan people are suffering dreadfully bcos they've been subjugated by China, period. This isnt about ideology it's about liberty.<br />as i said before im extremely unhappy about how the followers of he-who-wears-the-hat have been treated. i also happen to believe that the vast vast majority of what HH has done since the invasion is frankly amazingly positive. Like i said i've never heard of any suggestion that this demigod (Asura) is a Chinese spirit. An allegation made against his followers is that they're in the pay of the Chinese govt. personally i'm extremely sceptical of that claim. while it wudnt surprise me at all if China made the offer i doubt that many Tibetans wud accept it. everything on your link is translated from Tibetan. Given that you dont speak Tibetan and the sound quality on the videos is too poor for me to translate we cannot verify your claim based on this website alone.<br />as a socialist you probably believe that shamanism is the superstition of a primitive people. Which is why you'll never understand the true nature of this controversy, it's actually fascinating albeit with very negative ramifications for a not insignificant number of vulnerable people. it's also the reason why i can respect and revere HH and feel very lucky that we have such an intelligent leader during these difficult times but still disagree with him on this particular issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-51351985663293239342010-12-27T15:10:23.639+00:002010-12-27T15:10:23.639+00:00Socialists don't support or condone the suffer...Socialists don't support or condone the suffereings of our fellow workers wheter under the cloak of politics , nationalism or religion. I don't believe the blog described the chinese invasion as good or necessary but socialist would describe war , territorial and economic expansionism as part and parcel of the capitalist system.<br /><br />In regard to the comment about chinese spirit i refer you to http://wisdombuddhadorjeshugden.org/dorjeshugden05.php<br /><br />He [dalai lama explains how he knows that Dorje Shugden is a Chinese spirit based on locals' dreams: "Others have reported of a bearded monk strangling them: this is very clear indication that Shugden is a Chinese spirit, far from being a deity."ajohnstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09874891810770297962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-16976660985734276782010-12-27T14:21:57.021+00:002010-12-27T14:21:57.021+00:00A lot of Tibetans died as a direct result of the i...A lot of Tibetans died as a direct result of the invasion. Thousands more suffered under an imperialistic regime that views us as inferior human beings and has launched a systematic campaign to eradicate Tibetan identity.<br />i'm not happy about the treatment of followers of he-who-wears-the-hat (btw no1 ever said this demigod was a Chinese spirit) in fact i feel its quite inhumane and horrific. <br />At the same time please don't tell us that the Chinese invasion was either good or necessary. Gods! can you imagine how some1 who lost family would feel reading this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-26019842742878011542009-03-16T14:33:00.000+00:002009-03-16T14:33:00.000+00:00ajohnstoneI agree that our economic position as wa...ajohnstone<BR/>I agree that our economic position as wage slaves is fundamental, but would disgree with Debs because as propertyless wage slaves we have no country and therefore "our" country would only be the Earth in a future world socialist society of common ownership. However, Scottish identity is something associated with this wee bit of the planet and I for one am comfortable with this identity, as are people all over Scotland from whatever part that may be, and from whatever varied background. You ask "just how geographic will we be with our identity"? The democratic answer is, of course, as geographic as a person wishes it to be. I presume you are not suggesting that geographic identities will be frowned upon in a socialist society ! ?Jockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15366928113274588469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-53351807205744512892009-03-15T11:45:00.000+00:002009-03-15T11:45:00.000+00:00Just how geographic will we be with our identity ,...Just how geographic will we be with our identity , Jock ? <BR/><BR/>i know about the highlander -lowlander rivalry , the border -lowlander rivalry , the glasgow -edinburgh rivalry , the edinburgh - leith rivalry ...being scottish doesn't define people from scotland all that well , does it ? Certainly not sn identical common ancestry nor culture nor traditions . And shall we exclude those recent arrivals or first generation born in scotland and demand a cultural conformity from them thats all dependent mind you on historic myths and legends . <BR/><BR/>No-one denies certain common backgrounds are shared but even these are often exagerrated and mis-directed (and are mostly class not geography) . What we do question is the automatic political connotations of this perceived similarity ie the creation of national states that does create divisions between workers on the issue of "national interest" . (Remember also , the promoters of the Scottish culture such as highland dress and the tartans was not the working class but the Victorian landowners and aristocrats.)<BR/><BR/>i think here on SOYMB we would be more supportive of Eugene Debs position:-<BR/> <BR/>"I have no country to fight for; my country is the Earth, and I am a citizen of the World." - Eugene V. Debsajohnstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09874891810770297962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-1162497191541531672009-03-11T23:32:00.000+00:002009-03-11T23:32:00.000+00:00ajohnstone"the illusions of nationality" - would ...ajohnstone<BR/>"the illusions of nationality" - would you not accept as a possibility that a worker could understand his economic position as a wage slave as well as having a geographic identity eg Tibetan, Welsh, Scottish, English or Irish etc?Jockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15366928113274588469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-56527511661109854892009-03-11T13:09:00.000+00:002009-03-11T13:09:00.000+00:00a group of people possibly sharing common ancestry...a group of people possibly sharing common ancestry, culture, tradition,<BR/><A HREF="http://www.smallbusinessgrantsmoney.com" REL="nofollow">GrantS</A>Improvedlivinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15875384218907815887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-86355807929523507592009-03-11T01:32:00.000+00:002009-03-11T01:32:00.000+00:00Thank you, you explain the situation well.I speak ...Thank you, you explain the situation well.<BR/><BR/>I speak as a Dorje Shugden practitioner, who helps with this blog: <BR/><BR/>http://www.wisdombuddhadorjeshugden.blogspot.com<BR/><BR/>Your readers might be interested in this blog if they want to follow up.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again.Wisdomswordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13871697574494687050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-55765562985096878802009-03-10T22:16:00.000+00:002009-03-10T22:16:00.000+00:00From an article here http://www.worldsocialism.org...From an article here http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/may03/patriotism.html<BR/>"...the illusions of nationality are yet another tool of the ruling class, intended to trick workers into thinking that this really is some kind of collective society, and to misplace their passions that could otherwise be directed into the class struggle..."<BR/><BR/>And as the blog entry touches on , with his own treatment of his own religious dissenters , is the Dalai Lama good role model .ajohnstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09874891810770297962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-39833945685225465182009-03-10T18:42:00.000+00:002009-03-10T18:42:00.000+00:00a person cannot truly be believed to be free and h...a person cannot truly be believed to be free and happy just because his govt tells him he is.<BR/>no matter what kind of political leadership a country may have, a group of people possibly sharing common ancestry, culture, tradition, (maybe religious beliefs) but most importantly sharing a common 'way of life' should have the right to self determination.citizenXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304505853745422816noreply@blogger.com