tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post3364371928537176639..comments2024-03-22T19:52:46.571+00:00Comments on SOCIALISM OR YOUR MONEY BACK: Lest we forget - Anton PannekoekPoetry Coalshedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05514953133244910986noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-45429852415961194702019-04-30T14:47:02.164+00:002019-04-30T14:47:02.164+00:00The link to the full article anonymous refers to i...The link to the full article anonymous refers to is <br /><br />https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1942/1940s/no-453-may-1942/political-parties-and-workers/<br /><br />Also worth a read is <br />https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2004/2000s/no-1193-january-2004/more-lenin-or-less-lenin/<br /><br />ALB speaker's notes <br />"...We can envisage a quite different kind of electoral politics: workers, when they have become socialist, organising themselves into a mass, democratic political party on the same basis as Pannekoek envisaged for his “workers’ councils”, i.e. no leaders, only mandated and revocable delegates..."<br /><br />http://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com/2014/02/workers-councils.html <br /><br />for this meeting<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NH97bFQPz7Q<br /><br />Also Worth recording what Pannekoek thought of the SPGB <br /><br />“In the English-speaking world – since Mattick’s Living Marxism ceased – there is no other organ that in criticising all the Labor and socialist ‘reformers’ (really defenders of capitalism) at the same time could show the positive aims of pure class fight. For in England the most radical socialism is the S.P.G.B...”<br />Anton Pannekoek (Letter to J. A. Dawson, 12 October 1947)<br /><br />Anonymous's distain for Pannekoek was share by this reader of the Socialist Standard<br /><br />https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2003/2000s/no-1191-november-2003/letters-63/<br /><br />who felt we were overly flattering of Pannekoek and the editors reply to this.<br /><br />I stand by the blog post that Pannekoek was an ally of the SPGB despite differences and that his definition of a positive political party organization as “organs of the self-enlightenment of the working class by means of which the workers find their way to freedom” and “means of propaganda and enlightenment”.<br />https://www.marxists.org/archive/pannekoe/1936/party-class.htm<br /><br />Is exactly how we are organized in the SPGB <br /><br />His contributions such as the a SPGB published pamphlet on Darwinism, his "Lenin as Philosopher", his introduction to Dietzgen means we should not forget Pannekoek. Nor should we forget that he wrote for the Western Socialist as did the councilist Paul Mattick<br />ajohnstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09874891810770297962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36028082.post-71906692524284116062019-04-30T09:34:39.781+00:002019-04-30T09:34:39.781+00:00I would urge people to read the entire article the...I would urge people to read the entire article themselves and not rely on AJ's questionable use of quotations ( see ALB's rebuke on the criminal use of a James Joyce observation attributed to Marx on the Forum ).The writer of the article refers to 'so-called intellectuals . Many of these cultivate a cynicism towards the whole question of political action which does not mask, but accentuates their uselessness to the cause of Socialism'. Pannekoek is dismissed for making a 'distinction which does not exist'. <br />However, to repeat, read the article yourself, and when you have done so -FORGET Anton Pannekoek.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com